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> [BW 1.69] Bioware Bug: Sneak no workie!, Bioware bug - closed on DN
arQon
Posted: Jan 25 2006, 06:20 PM
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BW BUG: Blackguards with Rogue levels don't get Sneak Attacks
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Bug Reported By: arq


Area(s) Bug Observed In: Mysterious Pirate Camp


What character were you playing: Brenna, Brandon, and Sable


Please describe your observations:

Brandon, a BG with no Rogue levels, gets sneak attacks on Pirates if they're attacking his Torrid.
Brenna, a BG *with* Rogue levels, does not.

This looks like some half-assed attempt to implement the "Uncanny Dodge makes you unflankable except by a Rogue X levels higher" clause, and of course since it's BW it doesn't work properly. So as a result of her handful of Rogue levels, Brenna's *BG* Sneaks are being disabled too.

It looks like Assassin levels don't have this bug: a Pirate R10/A6 gets credit for Sneaks on Sable, who's R19.


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azmaveth> so, for my first stint as a dm, I feel the need to spawn a dragon or two on a party of babies...
dave> go find Kev when he makes his next baby :p
dave> he prolly kill it
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Posted: Jan 25 2006, 06:57 PM
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shad but true


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Bleh. That's exotic.

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arQon
Posted: Apr 2 2009, 04:22 AM
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and, of course, this is still broken.

BGs WITHOUT Rogue levels get Sneaks. Brie, at Rogue10/BG13 gets Sneaks. Brenna, at Rogue2/BG8, gets no Sneaks at all.

Given that BW have never even pretended to have PnP Uncanny Dodge behavior (and Brie's Rogue10 certainly isn't ANY number of levels higher than a Pirate Deckhand's Rogue12 even if they had tried) I have no idea where this bug comes from, but it's inarguably there.

What's even stranger is that ONLY those Pirates seem to have this rather bizarre ability - Slig Rogues, who are Rogue16, ARE Sneakable. It has to be something "special" about them, but I've re-examined them in the toolset and still don't see anything. Maybe it's some Secret Bonus gnomes get to make up for being the worst race in the game... confused.gif


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azmaveth> so, for my first stint as a dm, I feel the need to spawn a dragon or two on a party of babies...
dave> go find Kev when he makes his next baby :p
dave> he prolly kill it
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